denver with a youth group from mexico and seeing what a beloved figure he was, there with president clinton, of course, and even more beloved that his successor, pope benedict. what in your judgment, can this pope, could he, should he do to cullivate that relationship with this country? >> well, i was a very young bishop at the time in washington state, and that was the first time i went to world youth day with a whole lot of young people who sold tacos endlessly in order to afford a chartered bus, and i was moved by it because they were. i saw how it changed their lives, had a huge impact on that diocese, but pope benedict wasn't as extroverted. he was a kind man, a shy man, and he wasn't used to showing that in public, and this man is a pastor, first and foremost, he spent all his life being close to people, especially the poor, close to his own brothers in his religious society and also to the people he served in a large diocese in very difficult times, so he's a man of integrity, and that signs through even when he has to say this isn't what christ wants, he says it apparently in a way